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	<title>Comments on: Why Ebay mails get caught in my SPAM filter</title>
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		<title>By: TheBonsai</title>
		<link>http://www.thebonsai.net/2008/04/09/why-ebay-mails-get-catched-in-my-spam-filter/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBonsai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it influences only the score, of course. But I&#039;m not that familiar with SPF to tell something about why it failed (scored +1.4pt due to SPF softfail).

Even with that SPF failure the mail wouldn&#039;t have been blocked when it was a normal email with a normal timestamp ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it influences only the score, of course. But I&#8217;m not that familiar with SPF to tell something about why it failed (scored +1.4pt due to SPF softfail).</p>
<p>Even with that SPF failure the mail wouldn&#8217;t have been blocked when it was a normal email with a normal timestamp <img src='http://www.thebonsai.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://www.thebonsai.net/2008/04/09/why-ebay-mails-get-catched-in-my-spam-filter/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>using spf records to detect spam is another thematic. It&#039;s suggested to use it only for &quot;scoring&quot; - using spf directly for blocking or other purposes will result in very very much false-positives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using spf records to detect spam is another thematic. It&#8217;s suggested to use it only for &#8220;scoring&#8221; &#8211; using spf directly for blocking or other purposes will result in very very much false-positives.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBonsai</title>
		<link>http://www.thebonsai.net/2008/04/09/why-ebay-mails-get-catched-in-my-spam-filter/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBonsai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was just a problem with my &quot;weird UNIX MTA/MDA&quot; then it would be my personal problem ;) But no, unfortunately not. I also didn&#039;t mention the messages about the SPF record set of the sender domain, because I&#039;m not familiar enough with SPF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was just a problem with my &#8220;weird UNIX MTA/MDA&#8221; then it would be my personal problem <img src='http://www.thebonsai.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  But no, unfortunately not. I also didn&#8217;t mention the messages about the SPF record set of the sender domain, because I&#8217;m not familiar enough with SPF.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://www.thebonsai.net/2008/04/09/why-ebay-mails-get-catched-in-my-spam-filter/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ermm.. i meant.. if the database is in iso and the sending script is in utf8.. etc.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ermm.. i meant.. if the database is in iso and the sending script is in utf8.. etc.  <img src='http://www.thebonsai.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://www.thebonsai.net/2008/04/09/why-ebay-mails-get-catched-in-my-spam-filter/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such problems are indeed very annoying. We had something similar with a php script we wrote for our contact-form. When we used \r\n in the headers, the mail was detected as spam. When we used only \n everything was okay. &quot;Note: If messages are not received, try using a LF (\n) only. Some poor quality Unix mail transfer agents replace LF by CRLF automatically (which leads to doubling CR if CRLF is used). This should be a last resort, as it does not comply with » RFC 2822.&quot;

Another thing, thats what you&#039;ve seen, are charset problems. for example if using php with utf-8 and using an iso-8859-15 sending script and vice-versa..

i don&#039;t know why great companies like ebay don&#039;t fix their mail systems, but i know ebay is not the only one doing such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such problems are indeed very annoying. We had something similar with a php script we wrote for our contact-form. When we used \r\n in the headers, the mail was detected as spam. When we used only \n everything was okay. &#8220;Note: If messages are not received, try using a LF (\n) only. Some poor quality Unix mail transfer agents replace LF by CRLF automatically (which leads to doubling CR if CRLF is used). This should be a last resort, as it does not comply with » RFC 2822.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another thing, thats what you&#8217;ve seen, are charset problems. for example if using php with utf-8 and using an iso-8859-15 sending script and vice-versa..</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know why great companies like ebay don&#8217;t fix their mail systems, but i know ebay is not the only one doing such things.</p>
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